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August 14, 2015

Why my resale kicks BTO's ass.

DISCLAIMER: This entry is only appealing to you if you're sitting on a fence, deciding if you should get a resale or BTO. It is not very pedas because my pregnancy hormones are raging at different things and just wish everyone's houses are just equally big. Other than that, this may be irrelevant/boring. But you can plan for your future too even if you don't have a significant other. No judging.

I have been on TeamBTO for awhile because for one, I thought that never in a million years would I be able to afford a resale house. Why? Because resale houses depend solely on market prices/owner's choice of price and then there was an era of COV (Cash Over Valuation). That is basically paying the seller a certain amount he/she wishes to get cash value out of their flat. However, with the market for resale houses doing poorly and still is, plus COV is long gone that makes resale an alternative option. HDB is now firm with the COV whereby they scrap the entire idea or most part of it, and call it a "deposit" where it is capped at $5,000 (will elaborate on the next entry).

So why the sudden change from BTO to resale? Especially when I have said from the start that Baobei and I have no rush since we both have rooms at our parents' place, although we will be residing more in Serangoon than Jurong.

1) Resale market is doing poorly.

This only means good news for buyers and not so good news for sellers, especially those whose location is not very appealing. Those "hot spots" can still pull in quite a price though. And yes, although BTO will be a wayyy cheaper option for a married couple who are both only 25 years old, let's think far and not be narrow-minded.

This was taken from Channel News Asia Singapore's FB page.

We are truly blessed for two reasons. We got our unit in Bishan at a great deal and Bishan still shows great potential if we decide to sell in the future.


2) House size.

I cannot emphasize greatly how important this is in a long run, especially for couples who plan to start/have/will want a family. Maybe you don't plan to have kids now or maybe young kids do not need a lot of space but things will be different in 10 years time. I guarantee it. If you have not read my logic behind this, I have blogged before HERE. So for us, we will take a 4A room flat over a 5 room BTO because I have lived to see BTO in 3 room, 4 room and 5 room. Let me tell you that the difference between 4 and 5 room is only the size of the living room. Because if you were to buy a 5 room BTO, you can choose to build in your "4th" room in the living room as a study room etc. But the kitchen, toilets and rooms are still tiny-sized. Don't get me started on the most important room; Master bedroom. I mean, I paid for the damn house, the least I could get is a huge room for myself. I don't really care if the living room is tiny because let's face it, I bought a house to house myself, not my guests. So if they think the living room is too tiny for them when they visit, then please don't come!


3) Facilities.

When we started looking at resale houses, we also looked at what the neighbourhood has to offer. This is very important because even kedai mama under the block makes a huge difference! Unlike BTO which is typically build on empty lands next to more empty lands which most empty lands in Singapore are suited in the ulu areas of the neighbourhood. Which means we don't know what kind of shops/schools/doctors/ etc are being offered at that point of time apart from the fine print which HDB promises. But for us, when we were haus hunting our Bishan kastle, the neighbourhood is already there. Which means we just have to take a look at what they have. We are lucky as there are THREE childcare centers that were walking distance from our block, a wet market, NTUC (24 hours), my family doctor (hahaha Mama says it is easier for me to take MC), pediatrician clinic (a bonus that we now have BabyRKM coming soon), Prima Deli (Baobei's highlight!) and many more things like Bishan's version of Rupini's too (threading and waxing). So when it comes to facilities, we get to decide if the price tag is worth paying for because they have already existed. I read up a year ago on Facebook about one of the BTO in Punggol was promised a childcare center under their BTO block but it was not build or still being promised that send people on a search for a the nearest childcare. No such nonsense for resale houses.


4) Location.

Again, we get to pick the location. Not location like Bishan or Ang Mo Kio or Yishun. But more of where our house is located at exactly. Is it near the bus stop? Walking distance to the MRT? For my unit, we are located in such a manner that it is 3 bus stops to Bishan MRT, 4 bus stops to Thomson and their good food (Marymount MRT) and about 6 bus stops to Ang Mo Kio MRT. So yay us! There are two different bus stops on two separate main roads connecting to our house, and it is just beside the multi-story carpark for people like us who go out exactly on time and cannot afford extra time to walk. Like I said previously, location plays a part especially if we rely highly on public transport. Although we have the family car for now, I don't see us having one once BabyRKM is older or once our baby-making factory is close. A second hand car for now, is worth paying for the convenience when I am pregnant and when BabyRKM arrives. But if not, it will be motorbikes for the parents and public with the baby. However I do note that some BTOs are located very near MRTs and are at prime locations/matured estates, but of course the price tag is a tad ridiculous. My cousin paid for a 4 room BTO at Boon Keng that cost him half a million. Mine only costs half a million after it is fully paid for!!! So for me, the size and the price tag just doesn't match. Very bullshit eh.


5) Cost of renovation.

People say the downside of resale is the renovation costs because hacking is a lot of $$$ as compared to building things on an entirely empty house. That is true. But it is also true that hacking is not as expensive as you think it is (get many quotations from contractors as possible). Some resale houses are already renovated nicely by the owners so that makes it a plus point! Just wash the whole house before moving in. For us, we came in with the mindset of redoing the whole house. We had that huge plan which of course we tucked it aside once we found about about BabyRKM. But we are very lucky that the house's condition is still good. The floor tiles are still nice. I can say that is even nicer and of better quality than what HDB is offering as part of the BTO package. The toilets for our house were newly renovated (less than 7 months) which means we just have to change the toilet seats. The only thing we had to do was kitchen cabinet although the flooring was chipped here and there but hey! It is okay for now. We can still make do. Oh, don't get it wrong. Some resale houses come in the worst condition but sellers are usually willing to let go at a dirt cheap price so you can use the money on renovation. The key is to point out with whatever that is terrible about the house structure. Say things like, "But you see the tiles here are coming off.," or "If I buy this hosue, then I have to renovated the whole flooring," which will most likely tilt the price to your favour. Anyway our whole kitchen cost us SGD9.3k which includes hacking, cooker hod etc and build in microwave, which will be a separate entry once the kitchen renovation is done and the painting is completed. Then you will understand why I love my house and it's amazing layout.


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The only TWO good things I can gather from buying BTO are:

1) You are the first owner.

There shouldn't be any worry of the past history of the house which usually sellers/agents will not inform you of. So this house is a clean slate and you create the first memory of this BTO.


2) Most who apply are young couples/families.

Which means to say you will get neighbours of your age which I think makes it pretty cool. Lucky us, my next door neighbour is a pretty young (late 20s, early 30s) couple with young kids (below 5) so it doesn't seem so bad. But apart from that, my other neighbours or people living in the flat itself are not very young anymore. Hahah so BabyRKM will have to make do with my friends' kids aje lah.

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There will be people who disagree with me or say I show-off because I bought a resale house, but trust me when I said some people don't realize that they can actually afford to buy a resale themselves. It is a lot of homework but if you want it, work it! Some will even say, "Smaller house, lesser to clean/maintain," but like I said to each of his/her own. Thinking ahead never kills especially when you have no idea how much houses will cost in the future. If it is cheaper than what I bought it for now then Alhamdulilah, lucky you. But if HDB makes things more complicated in the future or younger generation wants a bigger house, it can make selling your current 92sqm a difficult thing to do. For me, the only upgrade I want from my current house will either be mansionette or private house. But if not, this house will be with us for a long, long time. If we get bored of the house, renovate lor. Like what we plan in 5 years to come, In Shaa Allah!

Of course for most, BTO seems like the pocket friendly option for those who do not have the luxury to buy resale houses. But then again, you might just be lucky like us who managed to find something that fits the bill, within our budget. So do lots of homework before buying a BTO, especially with more and more complains of the quality HDB is producing at. Some cost cutting may cost you more in a long run (like taking a package with the flooring and toilet doors, and ending up changing/replacing because the quality suck balls and it does).

Oh, for those who are engaged and plan to buy resale, note that you need to produce your marriage cert within a month of key collection and not 6 months like BTO. There are some exceptions but you just need to double check with your HDB case manager. You will be surprised how fast it is to buy a resale flat. So if your wedding is less than 6 months, you can start resale haus hunting. But if not, wait okay. Unless you are willing to nikah (solemnize) earlier.

My next entry is how to know how much you can afford to pay for a house meaning your budget (for both BTO and resale) and the process of DIY-ing your own side of the paperwork without having to get an agent to do it (for resale only).

Yes, I miss baby updates too. But the next one will be fun as we hit third trimester this week (or have we already entered?)! Please keep us in your prayers as we have reached the final lap of our pregnancy journey. Alhamdulilah. Oh, I have created a page about BabyRKM's journey/updates which you can find on the left side under #kattkrownjr

Oh I also do plan to do an entry related to weddings but more to Malay weddings specifically. It is about how much is too little to give the bride&groom as duit salam and why do we give.

Til the next one, xo 
August 6, 2015

The kirekattkastle or normal people say house.

So before we got married, we had a rule:
Buy a house only after we get married.

That's because Mak has already warned me beforehand to not be gatal (itchy backside) and apply for a house with someone who is not my husband. We initially set our mind on a project that HDB, well up til now, has yet to launch. If you have not guessed where's the location of the project we had been eyeing for, it is Bidadari. It will be launched in September 2015. If you're interested, you can look more in it here.

So anyway, after we got married I started exploring our options to buy a house. I mean, buying a house is truly an adult decision. You don't one day wake up and say, "Let's buy a house." Oh how I wish it was that easy but I realized many people don't see it that way. I know of couples who don't do their finances properly and don't realize that they can't afford to buy a house they picked (for BTO).

An example of someone I know, booked a 5 room BTO with her soon-to-be husband without calculating their finances and after adding their HLE + AHG (Additional CPF Housing Grant, for combined income not more than 5,000SGD) + SHG (Special CPF Housing Grant, depending on your total income range with maximum of 6,500SGD) + current combined CPF in their ordinary account, they still do not have enough for the price of the flat. For those who have no idea what I am talking about, simply put like this:

HLE + AHG + SHG + combined CPF = The cost of flat you can afford w/out forking out $$$

However, after adding those components above and it does not add up to the price of the unit you have picked, you have to pay the balance in CASH when you collect your keys. Of course, the good thing about BTO is that you still have time to collect money in your combined CPF and if you have a pay raise/ change of job with a better pay, your HLE can increase. But if not, on the key collection period, you have to pay the difference in cash or you have to forfeit the house.

So for example:

BTO costs 350,000 and your HLE+AHG+SHG+combinedCPF is only 300,000. You have to fork out the remaining 50,000 in cash when you come to collect the keys when your unit is ready.

So like I said, buying a house is an adult decision. Not suka-suka pay $20 (sorry can't remember how much we paid when we applied for the sales of balance flats) to buy yourself a balloting ticket.

Anyway, I pity that person because on top of saving for a wedding that is in a few months time, they also have to save for their house which is coming up real fast. So after reading up on how does buying of houses work, we decided to look into resale which I did blog here.

We did house hunting after we came back from honeymoon and realized that Serangoon and Bishan were wayyy off our budget. I was actually disheartened because I wanted either of the locations. I am biased lah because I grew up in both estates and I am very lucky that Baobei doesn't mind and to quote him, "It is also easier to get to places." So I am like where's the next best place to live in? Hougang.

Matured estate, one exit after my house in Serangoon if we are referring to CTE. So I thought, it cant be that bad. We actually set an appointment to look at 5 houses in Hougang back to back, which isn't easy at all. Most houses are priced at 430,000 but they are negotiable. At the end of the 5 houses, we more or less decided on the first house but not fully into it. It was a Friday, I remember because the next day, I still cannot believe that I have to forgo living in either Bishan or Serangoon. Then I decided to lookup on PropertyGuru again before we commit and deposit to the first house in Hougang. Guess what I saw? A sweet deal in Bishan.

Called up the agent immediately but I told him that our budget is 4x0,000 only, so if the owner wants anything more than that, we can't afford it. So I told him to let the owner know so we do not to waste time to view the house because we will not be forking out cash for the difference of what we don't have. 10 minutes later, he called and said seller says come down to view if we like the place tomorrow.

I brought my parents down the next day because Baobei was working. He said if it is much better than the first house in Hougang, he is agreeable to it. Loved the location of the house. Loved the condition of the house, except the kitchen. The tiles are chipped here and there but the cabinet definitely needs a change. The owner just renovated both toilets 7 months ago so they are pretty new! So after we finished viewing the house, made another appointment for tomorrow so Baobei and Mak can view the house. So on Monday, we went to look at the house again and Baobei said it was much bette than the first house in Hougang, obviously. Mak loves it too! We went down to wait while the agent discussed with the owner about our budget. Then the agent said, "The owner is agreeable to your price which is weird because an Indian family offered him 10k more but he said no." Syukur Alhamdulilah.

So I got to pick a house that fits the bill:
  • Centrally located; Bishan
  • Big enough; 104sqm
  • Everything is nicely proportionate. The living room doesn't eat into the rooms so that means all the rooms are nicely sized, even the master bedroom. The kitchen can even fit a dining table and people don't have to squeeze themselves to enter or leave.
Yes, yes I need to take pictures but we are in the midst of kitchen renovation and painting of the living room. Our house has no concept. The concept is "Whatever we feel like it because BabyRKM is more important." Haha.

People say we are crazy to take the maximum number of years (read: 25) to pay back our HDB loan because the interest is a killer (read: 2.4%) which means to say, when our house is fully paid for it would have cost us MORE THAN HALF A FREAKING MILLION. But guess what? It doesn't matter because CPF has been and will always be money we can never see, feel, touch so why bother and try to pay as much as we can to shorten the number of years (unless your pay allows or grows in years to come) if it is going to be hard on us (read: fork out $$$ from your pocket). It is bad enough 20% of our pay we don't even get to feel, so for us let it be.

Oh, guess what? We didn't engage an agent to help us with the process of buying the house and DIY-ed everything. It is pretty easy actually and we saved ourselves more than 4,000SGD instead of paying them that amount to do our paperwork (because agents take about 1% of the price of the house). I have a feeling that I have potential to be a house agent! Haha!

But the next entry will be 'Why resale is much better than BTO,' which will include how to DIY your paper work if you're buying a resale flat which can save you A LOT of money. Alternatively, you can pay me and I will do it for you at a fraction of what house agents charge. HAHAHA! Hey! If it works out for my parents, I will be doing their paper work when they SELL their house. It will save them almost 10,000SGD to pay a freaking agent. So how? Multi-talented eh.

Til the next house entry that probably offend TeamBTO, xo

Oh, happiest quarter century my soulmate and the baby daddy of my child. BabyRKM and I love you so much. We will have fun in KL tomorrow for our last holiday before our little one pops out and no traveling until she turns one.

And it is just less than 2 weeks before we enter 3rd trimester, so I guess baby updates soon too?
April 16, 2015

On Hiatus

So sorry for those who have been checking my blog (I am surprised I still clock more than 100 readers a day) but I am currently on hiatus. Will be back sometime in May with lots of updates! We have been searching for contractors (not interior designs because we know what we want and we don't want to pay more for the design fees, if possible) to do up our kitchen and toilet, so if you have good contacts, please leave a comment (even if it is your company's or family's, we will be glad to check it out) or email me at rennyizzatie@hotmail.com. I promise you that May will be filled with lots of posts for you to catch up on since most entries are saved in drafts.


Oh, I read on social media whereby girls went all
"Yahhh Taufik's wife is very successful yet there was no hantaran but deep down you all still want hantaran to cover face." 

1) Whose face you covering? Yours kan? Pasal you ada ciri-ciri Makcik KPO.
2) Let me say this again: Nobody gives a shit how much is your hantaran lah. Nobody but you who goes for someone's nikah to look at the hantaran dulang. Pui.
3) I realized all those girls who went all defensive mode about Taufik's wife tak mintak hantaran, are the girls who demanded 8-10k+ for their hantaran and nowhere near fabulous as Taufik's wife. PUHHLEASE.

I hope my future sons will not have mother in laws like you. Meluat. Money face.

Okay, see you in May.